Tuesday, July 13, 2010

Boy Scout Camp Fail/Kyron Horman Update

This week is/was Boy Scout camp. My 9 year old son is (reluctantly) in Boy Scouts and this week is the week long DAY CAMP where the boys show up just during the day from 8 am to 4:30 pm. DS said he wanted to go so we sent in the registration forms and the $55 fee. I signed up to be a volunteer because he didn't want to go unless I was going to be there. (He is shy around new people and crowds) We got our camp t-shirts and got up yesterday morning and headed to camp. I had to take my 10 year old daughter as a tag along because I didn't have any place to leave her. She ended up volunteering too and helped run the little trading post snack stand all day.

We all did indoor activities for the first half of the day and it was quite pleasant in the air conditioned building. Then after lunch it was time to go outside and do the outdoorsy activities like bb guns & soccer, archery, etc. This is when it started. "I'm hot." "I don't want to play soccer, it's hot." "I'm sweating, I want to go inside." "I just want to go home. I am ready to go."

I made him stay outside and made him participate in everything except soccer. And I didn't make him participate in that because I was also hot & tired and let him sit in the shade with me while the other kids (some sat it out with us) played soccer for awhile in the sweltering sun. I'm not sure of the exact temperature here yesterday but it felt like it was around 92 to 96. We were outside in it for almost 4 hours. It was just too much heat and too much outdoor time for my son to stand. He made it clear that he was not having fun, that he didn't like it and that he didn't want to do this the rest of the week.

There was no way I was going to drag him around that place day after day and force him to stay in it if he didn't/doesn't like it. It was a wasted $55 for one miserable day, and I wasted an entire day I won't ever get back volunteering to take care of other ppl's kids.

I was surprised at how many parents sent their kids to Boy Scout camp where the paperwork clearly stated they would be swimming every day, but they didn't send any swim trunks or sunblock for their kids. The paperwork clearly stated the kids needed to bring a morning snack, a lunch with a drink and to bring money to buy an afternoon snack from the trading post. Most kids only brought lunch, some with no drink. Alot didn't bring morning or afternoon snack or also didn't bring any money from home to buy anything. How can you send your kid so unprepared to spend all day with strangers and not even make sure they have everything they are suppose to have? Is it just a babysitting service for some ppl to send their kids to camp?

So, I told my son that he didn't have to go back for the rest of the week if he didn't want to go. The only reason I was sending him is so he could have fun and be around the other kids. Since we homeschool he doesn't get alot of time around other kids so I wanted to present him with the opportunity to do that if he wanted to. But I'm not all about making them do things they don't want to do, unless we are talking about cleaning their rooms or eating their vegetables.

I'm not even sure he is going to want to stay in Boy Scouts at all. The troop he is in doesn't do anything he thinks of as fun. One kid he knows from when he went to private school is in another troop here in town and he told Dayton (my son) that his troop is fun. SO I might check into switching him from the troop he is in to the troop of his little friend.

I do scouts for my daughter and for my son and it takes up my valuable time to do so, so I want them to have fun with it and enjoy it. I dont' want to have to force them to do it because then I just see it as wasting my time and serving no real purpose.

In other news, you know if you read my blog that I have blogged about the little missing Oregon boy Kyron Horman who they suspect the step mom might have killed. There is new developments in the case as posted today over on MomLogic.


Kaine Horman and Desiree Young, Kyron Horman's parents, are now reporting they are concerned that Terri Horman may be suffering from postpartum depression or psychosis. They believe Terri's emotional state after the birth of Kiara, who is now 19 months old, changed. Her behavior seemed to become more erratic, and even though she never expressed her depression to Kaine, it seems she was venting often to her girlfriends.


Postpartum depression is a serious problem affecting 1 out of 20 new moms. This includes crying often, difficulty bonding with child, and mood and sleep disturbances. When postpartum depression can be deadly is when it steps into the realm of psychosis. Postpartum psychosis is not nearly as common, only affecting 1 out of 1,000 new moms. When the mother begins to lose touch with reality and begins to start expressing bizarre thinking patterns or strange ideas, then you may be dealing psychosis.

The case of Andrea Yates, who killed her five young children in June 2001 by drowning them in the bathtub in her home, is an example of severe postpartum depression and psychosis. There is also the case of Otty Sanchez, 33, who decapitated her child and consumed some of his body parts. She had apparently tried to kill herself, too. In the week prior, she had broken up with the baby's father. Her family has reported that she had been diagnosed with schizophrenia earlier in life and suffered from postpartum psychosis after the birth of her son.

We do not know if Terri Moulton-Horman did anything to Kyron, but what we do know is she failed two polygraphs regarding his disappearance. Terri allegedly attempted to hire someone to kill Kaine. There was enough evidence of danger that Kaine Horman was able to get a restraining order for himself and their daughter.

What is clear is that the parents of Kyron are desperate to find their son and believe that Terri Horman is somehow involved.


Seems to me like they may be trying to find some reason for why she might have killed Kyron. It seems a little late in the game to me for her to have a post partum psychosis breakdown that resulted in her killing a child. Especially since it wasn't even her own 19 month old daughter that got killed/missing. Usually when someone suffers from post partum psychosis, it is evident to those around them to some degree and sometimes it is very clear that there is severe depression/psychosis happening. And from what is being printed about it, she never expressed any problems at all to her own husband. I know what post partum psychosis feels like. I have experienced it, three times, and it is horrible and I can't see going through it and someone not knowing. It is a chore to survive post partum psychosis. Unless you have been through it you can't even BEGIN to understand what is involved and the mental process that goes on. But usually it appears shortly after birth and in most cases does not last 19 months. Even unmedicated post partum psychosis doesn't last 19 months. But that may be a way of setting up an insanity defense for her if she confesses or if they find evidence against her.

I am still not convinced she kidnapped and killed Kyron, but there does seem to be very strong evidence against her that she tried to set up having her husband killed at some point. Strong enough evidence of it that a judge granted him, the husband/dad a restraining order against her that also prevents her from seeing her own 19 month old child. That's a very unusual and severe order against her.

They don't have any evidence against her, at all. Just speculation and theories and unfortunately, I don't think they will come up with enough to charge her. Which to me, makes me have to give her the benefit of the doubt. Innocent until proven guilty.

ALSO posted on MomLogic in case you missed it about the mom who had sex with her own son...


Angry Mom: 36-year-old Aimee L. Sword -- who was named one of the Worst Mothers of 2009 by momlogic -- has been sentenced to eight to thirty years in prison for having sex with her own son.


Sword gave up her son for adoption when he was a few days old. She received yearly updates and pictures from the boy's family.

When he was 14, Aimee (then a mother of five) contacted him through Facebook and started a sexual relationship with him.

"When she saw this boy, something just touched off in her -- and it wasn't a mother-son relationship, it was a boyfriend girlfriend relationship," said her lawyer, who added that Sword was sexually and physically abused as a child. "Aimee's searching for a reason why this happened. She can't understand it. She's going to get some counseling."

She certainly needs it. Our heart goes out to this innocent boy. How could a mother do such a thing? It seriously boggles the mind.

5 comments:

  1. Sounds like there is much more going on than postpartum
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  2. I understand your son's reluctance with the boy scout thing... I was a cub scout for one day... I just didn't like it... I just didn't want to do it... I turned out ok (I think... :oD )

    The other two stories... I just don't know whats happened to the little boy... every time there is an update, they still insist that the step mom is NOT a person of interest... yet...

    The mother having sex with her son... YIKES!!!

    However, that's how the Oedipus concept arose...

    Man...

    ~shoes~
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  3. I hope he chooses to go back at least one day this week.
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  4. I feel sorry for the other boys whose parents treat Scouts like it's a babysitting service. Drop them off with strangers, no food or money?! Come on, people.

    Been following the news on Kyron. So sad! I hope they find him.

    And that mom who had sex with her son?! What the?!
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  5. how do you look at your own child in a sexual manner? she seriously needs counseling.

    children are a precious gift and should be appreciated as such. no matter how nutts my kids make me, i thank God every day for them.

    I hope your son enjoys the new camp. Camp should be a fun experience to want to remember.
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